Freightliner Depot Visitors (Lima)

After completing the Freightliner Loco’s for the Depot I decided to add some visiting Loco’s. I now turned to my visits to Ipswich Stabling Point,  then I turned to my Photo Album and came up with four Loco’s. They were as follows.

Anglia Class 47 and Cotswold 47 – These would be to the same specification as the Freightliner 47’s.

A DRS class 37 was also required, this would be 37229, recently named and seen at Ipswich several times. This would be a heavily modified Lima Model with the following alterations.  – Lowered Bogies — Wire hand rails – Windscreen Etch  – Motor strip and rebuild – Roof fan and grill – Extra pickups – Detailed buffer beams –  Flush glaze –  Ultrascale wheels.

The last Loco would be a class 31, I decided it would be a Railtrack loco in their new livery. Here I have to say that the Lima Class 31 body shape is still the best available, although Hornby’s motor/chassis is way superior, they certainly missed a great opportunity with the body. The specification of the Lima 31 would be the same as the 37 above, without a windscreen etch.

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Lima Freightliner 66’s

After modelling the 47’s and 57’s for the Depot layout I then added three Class 66’s. Again, at the time Bachmann had not issued its 66. I drew up a specification as follows.

Detail both ends – Ultrascale wheels – Extra pick-ups – extra weight – Renumber/Name – Strip Lima motor and rebuild –

Unlike the 47’s and 57’s I would not repaint the 66’s.

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Lima Freightliner 47’s

At roughly the same time as making the 57’s, I also researched and made four 47’s to different specifications. These were made to join the 57’s on a depot layout I had at the time. These now appear together on my latest depot, Marsh Lane.

The specifications were the same or similar to the Class 57’s, so for the full list, look at that post. This of course excludes the class 57 roof detail/exhaust kit.

Some of these loco’s had some 57 like modifications, sand boxes and extra piping.

47303 is basically the standard Freightliner 47 at the time in original livery.

47309 is an extended tank loco with sand boxes in original livery.

47270 is an extended tank loco with sand boxes in Freightliner Green (as 57)

47805 is a standard extended tank loco, Ex Virgin Cross Country with Freightliner flashes.

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Lima Class 57 Conversions

The starting point for this conversion was the Lima 47, and these notes describe what  was changed to convert to a true 57. Lima did make a so called 57, but this was in fact a 47 painted as a 57!!!!!

Shawplan class 57 roof kit – Shawplan Class 47/57 cut away buffer kit – Shawplan  roof fan and grill kit – Fox transfers – Ultrascale Wheels – Wire Handrails – Amended Fuel tanks –  Add extra pipes on bogies – Fit extra pickups – Strip and rebuild Lima Motor –  SE Flush Glaze – Add extra weight – Amend centre body doors – add cab to shore radio aerials – Body windows inside pipework- Shawplan sand boxes – Buffer Beam details both ends .

I made these way before Bachmann decided to make their model of the 57. These were the days that modelling was modelling and not just opening a box of your chosen loco/Livery. I find that the research is a pleasure and to find slight differences between loco’s of the same class is worthwhile, these are sometimes missed by the manufacturers.

I would not call this an easy or quick conversion, but it is rewarding. Taking a razor saw to a model can be a bit daunting, but at least in those days Lima were very reasonably priced and second-hand bargains were plentiful.

I made three loco’s at the same time to set up a mini production line. There are detailed differences between the three, some obvious, others more subtle.

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1960’s/70’s Milk Train

These wagons are standard Hornby and the only modifications are the painted wheels and my coupling mods. The spills on the tanks are ‘watercolour pencil’, not white, but light grey. These are great for trial and error, if you don’t like it, wipe it of with a damp rag!

After photo research I realised most were quite dirty by the end of the 60’s. I did find attempts at some ‘token cleaning’ so I replicated that on one wagon. This is a rake of eight wagons.

This rake is more akin to the Western Region I believe. My only recollection of milk trains in my area of East Anglia was a very dirty J15 with a couple of full brakes and one or two tanks.

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1970’s Dogfish and Shark

Not much to say about these wagons, standard Heljan Dogfish with a Hornby Shark, lightly weathered. Both great models, only painted wheels and my coupling mods.

After studying the few photo’s of the insides of empty wagons, I tried to replicate them. I have to say that there are plenty of pictures of dogfish in all conditions, but very few of the insides, so some guesswork was needed.

This rake is really late 60’s, early 70’s. Six Dogfish and one Shark.

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Coal Train (1)

This is the first of many coal trains that I will post, it is also the shortest by far. This train is made up of five coal hoppers and a brake van. I have modelled them in the 1960’s, but again it could be stretched a bit. Although I did see this type of wagon, my local station did not have ‘coal drops’ for bottom discharge. This type of wagon was used more at coal concentration depots rather than in local goods yards.

These wagons are loaded and you may be surprised to know that I do not use real coal or any substitutes, I used OO & O gauge ballast!!!!!  After much experimenting and trying to break real coal, screen and sort it into grades, I always ended up with more dust than the right sized coal. As I say above, my answer was ballast. When you buy it, it comes in a fairly even size, it glues well with PVA and accepts paint well. I simply make an insert with whatever humps or bumps I require, fit it to the wagon, then add the ballast. After drying and everything is solid I paint it matt black, this also weathers any exposed internal wagon sides and ends. After drying,  I then ‘Dry Brush’ gloss paint on about 50% of the raised area’s of the painted ballast.

I would also say that its not a ‘matt’ world we live in and the contrast between the wagon and the load help to enforce this.Don’t ‘over do’ the gloss, keep it subtle.

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1960’s pick up freight (1)

The first of my pick up freight is a six wagon rake. This is for my oval garage layout so it has no shunting capabilities, it just comes out of the fiddle yard and after a circuit goes back in. As such it has my fixed coupling method. This rake can be run in a late steam era or in an early diesel  scenario. I try to get my wagons rakes to do multiple era’s if possible and this rake could just do very early seventies.

One thing I have forgotten to mention on other wagon posts is that I remove all wheelsets on coaches and wagons and carefully paint them, I usually use Howes track colour or similar. I then carefully clean all the treads with thinners. I hate to see a nicely weathered wagon with silver or shiny wheels beneath it. It also looks odd if airbrushed and part of the wheel gets sprayed and the other half doesn’t.  I have to say I do this on even the most modern wagons as I think it helps with the overall character of the wagon or coach.

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Grainflow PAA Covered Hoppers

Although these wagons are basically standard Lima, I have very fond memories of this type of wagon at my local station. During the eighties and right up to the end of Speedlink they used to arrive, either in a block train or as part of the Speedlink service. If on a Speedlink they could also have UKF wagons attached.

This is my block train of twelve wagons, although I would like to put together another service with some mixed wagons.

I did notice how variable the weathering on the wagons could be, I guess this depended on just how many East Anglia to Scotland trains they had run without cleaning. I tried to reproduce this in my Lima rake. This service was a trip service from Ipswich yard, having been trunked from Whitemoor.

Only my coupling modification has been done. I may well revisit some of the dirtier wagons and redo the weathering on the suspension.

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